Dr. Mark Vernon | Psychotherapy and the Spiritual Path


In this episode, my guest is Mark Vernon, the author of the new book Dante’s Divine Comedy: A Guide for the Spiritual Journey. Mark is a psychotherapist and writer interested in spirituality and inner life. He has a Ph.D. in ancient philosophy, as well as degrees in physics and theology. You can learn more about Mark’s work at markvernon.com.

In the conversation, Mark and I discuss:

  • Psychotherapy and the spiritual path

  • Why the way down can be the way up

  • The role of guides on the spiritual path

  • How the Divine Comedy can change our perception

  • Wisdom in daily life and much more


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